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This site a hate site! Really Bane? Read the diatribe coming from the mouth of Mythconception in his last three or four blog posts!
Do you see anything even close to that here? Not at all.
He is simply not able to be polite or concentrate on aquaponics. He is on a continual hate mission.
This site is the only place where some perspective is able to be established.
We only ever answer his outbursts. Of late we simply cannot be bothered they have become so outrageous and stupid.
We are actually afraid for him that he may well suffer a total mental breakdown.
Publicly calling someone a liar, not once but several times shows Mythconceptions mental state. No normal person does that kind of thing.
He has a very long track record of being objectionable.
He has a very long track record of deleting anything and anybody he does not agree with or he has decided to be jealous of and therefore hate.
He has a long track record of posting hate blogs.
His forum is dying because of him and him alone.
Have you seen the video depiction of Mythconception ? Take a good look, it so funny because it is so true. Which one of his Generals are you?
mythponics
March 5, 2011 at 5:28 am
Really Adrian. You run a hate blog and say that I am metally ill? yeah yeah def. me with the issues lmao. Lame mate.
Bane
March 4, 2011 at 11:42 am
Hello Bane,
I am very sorry to be rude to you but you are obviously mentally ill.
This is the only possible explanation for your inane communications.
It is more apparent every time you contribute.
mythponics
February 25, 2011 at 4:54 am
Your welcome adrian… i still want to know who is behind this site… oooo the goss the goss.
A new mythponics myth for you to chew on…
Molto discorso del backyarders che prende i rapporti di conversione di alimentazione la stesso poiché acquacoltura commerciale coltiva.
lol nope… not in thier current configuration… they will not…
Bane
February 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Hello Bane,
Thank you for your comments
mythponics
February 24, 2011 at 10:56 am
rupertofoz you are as confused as adrian thinks I am.
Dude…. it is clear to me that you copied the text…. added some extra words… to pass it off as your own work…. From what I have seen, this is an area you are definately an expert in…..it is most definately plagiarised……
http://www.plagiarism.org
•changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
•copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on “fair use” rules)
I am def…. not an expert in anything… (I do know a fair bit about panelvans)…. not quite like you buddy.
Anyways dude seems you like the focus on you but we are more interested in who is behind this site.
Makes for much more interesting convo…..
Bane
February 24, 2011 at 4:44 am
Perhaps you should put your glasses on Crusty… or not post when you’ve been on the sauce…
Yep the opening paragraph is the same… but the rest is different…
Even if many words/sentances are common throughout all the sites…
You can see an exact similarity amongst Murray’s sites… and some of the random sites…
But mine is obviously, even if contextually similar… quite different….
Grow up and shed your shell mate…
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Well Crusty, I did put “Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish.” … in google…
http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIE_enAU387AU387&q=Aquaponics+is+the+creation+of+a+complete+cycle+of+symbiotic+relationships+where+the+fish+help
And checked my site against the others on the front page of hits…
Now FYI… Murray’s site you’re aware of… but the “boat shop” and adelaide aquaponics are also his sites, or affiliate sites…
The other sites I haven’t heard of…. but that doesn’t overly surprise me, because in the last 12 months every man and his green toes have crawled out of the haystack claiming to be aquaponics experts and that they’ve been doing it since Noah was a boy…
While the first paragrap of my site… and three of Murray’s sites is the same… the rest is completely different… although consistant across Murray’s sites…
Here’s the first couple of paragraphs for comparison…
Mine… http://www.freshbynature.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=26&Itemid=56
Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish.
Aquaponics is a truly remarkable system of food production, because it works so well.
Nutrient rich fish water is pumped from the fish tank into grow beds filled with gravel, round river stones, or expanded clay balls, and is evenly distributed by a simple system of pipes.
Plants such as tomato’s, cucumbers, lettuce and other green leafy vegetables, growing in the grow bed media, extract the nutrients from the water filtering through the grow bed, finally returning the water back into the fish tank, by gravity or by pump, cleaned of excess nutrients and freshly oxygenated.
Murray’s…
http://www.aquaponics.net.au/aqua1/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49:what-is-aquaponics&catid=47:aquaponic-basics&Itemid=58
Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish. It uses no chemicals, requires one tenth of the water needed for field plant production and only a fraction of the water that is used for fish culture. (Aquaculture)
This is truly a remarkable system, because it works so well. The fish actually supply nutrients to a bed of plants, (called Grow Beds) and plants clean up the water that the fish live in, making a mutual beneficial environment for both. The only external input to the system is food for the fish. The plants grow in a Grow Bed
Both Aquaponics systems compliment each other as a single unit, not as separate units. The fish water is pumped to the Grow Beds, and is evenly distributed by a simple system of pipes. The fish water feeds the plants, such as tomato’s, cucumbers, lettuce and other green leafy vegetables, then filters through the grow bed that is filled with gravel / round river stones, finally returning to the fish tank by gravity or by pump. The water is returned to the fish tank cleaned ready for use by the fish, and so the cycle continues.
Murray’s (Boatshop)
http://www.boatshop.com.au/category21_1.htm
Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish.
Aquaponics uses no chemicals, requires one tenth of the water needed for field plant production and only a fraction of the water that is used for fish culture. (Aquaculture)
This is truly a remarkable system, because it works so well. The fish actually supply nutrients to a bed of plants, (called Grow Beds) and plants clean up the water that the fish live in, making a mutual beneficial environment for both. The only external input to the system is food for the fish. The plants grow in a Grow Bed
Both systems compliment each other as a single unit, not as separate units.
The fish water is pumped to the Grow Beds, and is evenly distributed by a simple system of pipes. The fish water feeds the plants, such as tomato’s, cucumbers, lettuce and other green leafy vegetables, then filters through the grow bed that is filled with gravel / round river stones, finally returning to the fish tank by gravity or by pump. The water is returned to the fish tank cleaned ready for use by the fish, and so the cycle continues.
And some randoms… never heard of them before….
http://www.victorygardensmv.com/aquaponics/
Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish.
Aquaponics uses no chemicals, requires one tenth of the water needed for field plant production and only a fraction of the water that is used for fish culture. (Aquaculture)
This is truly a remarkable system, because it works so well. The fish actually supply nutrients to a bed of plants, (called Grow Beds) and plants clean up the water that the fish live in, making a mutually beneficial environment for both. The only external input to the system is food for the fish.
And so it goes on… certainly seems to have become an accepted generic public domain description…
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm
So it looks like you may have written it rupertofoz. Which could mean Murray Hallam is copying it.
But you have given no proof of that aside from registering a website. If I registered a site and did not put anything on would that mean I can copy others text at any time. Or rupertofoz did you come up with the text that is so widely copied.
Here is an exsample put “Aquaponics is the creation of a complete cycle of symbiotic relationships where the fish help plants and the plants help fish.” in google and see what is shown.
But plagerism as discribed here
http://www.plagiarism.org/plag_article_what_is_plagiarism.html
“-to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own”
is aside from the point of who is the face behind this site even if it is interesting just the same.
Bane
February 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Well Bane/Crusty… I’m definitely me, and only me…
Not Murray or Adrian… whoever he/she is… and it would appear that you know…
So the three “copied” pages are actually one, and the same, page that is accessed from three different headings…
You are correct… I stuffed up the links from the heading page a while back when I was fiddling… and they all point back to the one page… a definition of “aquaponics”…
Hadn’t seen that ezine article Bane… but it says that it was written and “Published: October 6, 2009″
http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Murray_Hallam
I can supply you, or anyone with receipts that show my website was registered back in Dec 2007
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Well Bane/Crusty… I’m definitely me, and only me…
Not Murray or Adrian… whoever he/she is… and it would appear that you know…
So the three “copied” pages are actually one, and the same, page that is accessed from three different headings…
You are correct… I stuffed up the links from the heading page a while back when I was fiddling… and they all point back to the one page… a definition of “aquaponics”…
Hadn’t seen that ezine article Bane… but it says that it was written and “Published: October 6, 2009″
http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Murray_Hallam
I can supply you, or anyone with receipts that show my website was registered back in Dec 2007
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 3:31 pm
It seems no one knows who is who on this site rupertofoz. You could be Murray or Adrian for all I know.
I did nto mean to wind you up buddy.
Just an observation. I was reading Joels site forum about dodgy sites and noticed you commented all the time and your website is in your siggy so I visited it.
On all three pages aquaculture, aquaponics and haydroponics you have very much the same text as an article I saw from Murray Hallam. It may not be ‘word for word’ though the copy is clearly there.
I wonder why Adrian with all her knowlege does not see it, are you Adrian rupertofoz?
From what I have read, you very much know heaps about aquaponics and yet you have not written your own meaning of what aquaponics is? You have plenty of time to post about people copying stuff from other peoples sites.
http://ezinearticles.com/?What-is-Aquaponics&id=3008225
You get odd results when pasting any part of yoru page into google though most lead back to Murray Hallams site. Especially if you add ” and ” at each end. Perhaps Murray is copying you?
Bane
February 19, 2011 at 2:51 pm
While sitting in the car waiting for the boys to finish at footy, I have been looking for the similar pages and text. I find the repeated use on both sites of the word “aquaponics”. Maybe that is it!
mythponics
February 19, 2011 at 9:55 am
Could be Crusty; but has more the word patterns and hatefullness of Mr or Mrs Mythconception. Has tried to cloak the ip address but not all that successfully
mythponics
February 19, 2011 at 9:52 am
I’d put my money on it being Crusty…
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 9:35 am
Gidday Crusty/Bane… wondered how long before you decided to have another dig at me…
Not sure why you started your little vendetta… well actually I have a hunch…
The only page I could find on my website that you migth be referencing… was a generic description of aquaponics, that was cobbled together from several sources…. and not from memory anything directly from Murray at all…
I’m happy to stand corrected, and if Murray feels there is a problem to take whatever action is necessary…
Perhaps you could email me the “three pages” in question Crusty… because I can’t find them…
Actually, I can’t find the “word for word” page on Murray’s site either…
And to the best of my knowledge Joel is not involved with this site, and I most certainly are not…
Funny how, given your recent foray into aquaponics, and the industry… that you mention QLD… and have launched a spate of attacks on myself, Joel & Murray…
Wonder if the two are related…
Trying to build yourself an image of “authority” and “expertise”… by/while slagging your competitors eh Crusty??
RupertofOZ
February 19, 2011 at 9:34 am
A thought just came to me today and that is rare.
I see no reason why this site would not be Joels from backyardaquaponics.com It could be just as easy for it to be either Murray or Joel.
Just a thought, Joel has a distributor in NSW freshbynature.com.au who is using on thier site word for word the text from Murrays site to discribe aquaponics.
Yet Joel has an entire thread dedicated to “dodgy websites” and quite a lot of trash talk about sites breaching copyright. Even “rubertofoz” with freshbynature.com.au in their signature is a common contributor, but breaches the copyright of Murrays on three pages of their site.
Kind of makes me think you all might be frauds. QLD is the only place Joel does not have a distributor so he could be going after his competition.
So could you be involved here Joel along with your distributors?
Can we add the following quote from the site to the myth pile? Murray just posted about his pH dropping to 4.2 yesterday.
“What is amazing in Aquaponics, once the system is initialised, the water stays pH balanced and remains crystal clear.”
Bane
February 19, 2011 at 2:53 am
“So one of the very people you actually set out to help with this blog, has a lot of people thinking he might be a fraud.”
Not that I matter much but I thought the “evidence” psted by Gary was quite clear in that it made me question if in fact Murray Hallam is behind this “site”. I doubt it is deceptive as you suggest Murray Hallam. Do you think Gary glued the pictures of you on the posts from this “site”?
Is this another mythconception? I guess the site will close and we will never know if Murray Hallam is a fraud or something else. Murray Hallam sure looks like a fraud from where I am sitting. Scary stuff.
Bane
February 18, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Hi Joel,
Sorry, but if you think the “evidence” is well put forward then I am sorry that you are so easily decieved and frankly I am surprised.
The whole matter is best ignored. Your giving this dispicable person any credibility is astonishing.
I will not communicate publically any further on the matter. It is to stupid for words.
Regards Murray
Murray
February 18, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Hi Murray,
I hear what you say, and as you know I have been communicating with you amicably for many months now.
And as everyone would know from past experience, I’m not likely to take Gary’s word easily, but as I said, the evidence is well put forward by Gary.
If the person running this blog has yours and every ones interest at heart, then perhaps it’s time to raise the veil, this would prove without a doubt that there hasn’t been any deception. I’m sure that you would have to agree Murray that this would be the best outcome for everyone.
SO I SAY, PLEASE MYTHPONICS GIVE SOME WAY OF KNOWING THAT YOU ARE INDEED SOMEONE ELSE? And Murray I would encourage you to request the same so that this can be put to bed quickly.
Joel
joel
February 18, 2011 at 5:47 pm
And, by the way, I have not ever had a Gravatar. I do not use even an ordinary Avitar on my blog and I have a very ordinary avatar on my Forum which has remained the same for a very long time.
(the camera is not all that kind to me)
Regards Murray
Murray
February 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Hi Joel,
I would be happy if this site was closed down. It no longer serves any good purpose.
Yes I would rather not be involved by commenting here, and I am not all that worried about anything GD has to say. He has a long track record of being nasty and disruptive going right back to the very early days of BYAP forum. I am sure you will remember. Anyone who has been around for a while will know these things. It is only new folk that might get a bit confused, but then only for a short while. Most soon work it out. Even his Crusty mate has done a runner.
He was picking on you Joel a little while back, now it must be my turn. Sylvia had a turn at copping his nastyness.
His post on his blog earlier today is nasty and very rude as well lacking in facts, which is fairly typical. So what is new?
I will not comment on any of the details about his silly blog, it is just not worth bothering about. Good old GD will continue to do what GD has always done. Dogs always bark and do what dogs do.
I am too busy building a business to waste time on him.
I invite everyone to come join my Forum and become a member of my Blog. I have in excess of 2500 people who read my blog posts every edition. Today we just passed the 400 mark of new members of my membership system which will soon expand to include another group. As early members can attest, it has been going for over a month!
It is all good Joel, as I am sure it is over your way. Your BYAP magazine is second to none. You can justly be proud of your achievement. We are moving forward building an Aquaponics business.
Thanks to all those good people who regularly participate in the Aquaponics world as customers and friends.
Murray
murray@aquaponics.net.au
Murray
February 18, 2011 at 4:33 pm
This blog seems to have degenerated.
I don’t see how it could possibly be a joke. Then you say the whole site will now be coming down in a couple of days?
To be fair, Bane there were debunks earlier on, quite well put and indisputable from what I read. And when you can’t debate what Gary says over where he says it, well it was a fair call to put this up here.
But now, from the evidence put forward by Gary it looks pretty bad. If you’re not Murray and it was just a “joke” then can you please prove to me somehow that you are someone else?
If you are someone else, then by pulling what you call a joke, you’ve made a lot of people think that Murray is scamming everyone and lying. So one of the very people you actually set out to help with this blog, has a lot of people thinking he might be a fraud.
If you are Murray, well that a different story.
joel
February 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I am sure Murray H takes it all as a bit of amusing fun. We were going to close the site down in the next few days after a couple of finishing posts. The avatar was supposed to be a joke, there is one more to come yet. Had no idea it would work as well as it did!
But good old GD fired up with a real blast and it is bound to keep the site going for a while yet.
GD posting annonomously; we would all know it was him Mrs Mythconception and that would make it all the more amusing.
mythponics
February 18, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I doubt I am very important, well not as important as you Adrian. It truely is a great larf. You should ask Gary if he downloaded all of the site. Imagine if he posted it annonomously like you do here. Doesnt Murray Hallam have an international reputation to protect? If I were Murray Hallam, I would not be too happy with you posting my image on the posts Adrian.
What ya gonna do buddy?
Bane
February 18, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I just wonder who Bane is? A dozen Buddies!
mythponics
February 18, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Well that post from Gary with the shots of this site with Murray Hallams photos attached to each mythponic post has to make you wonder, if you did not make a mistake by putting it there, what was the purpose?
It was very ammusing to ready Murray Hallam liking all the posts and talking about himself in the third person. Cracked me and a dozen of my buddies right up. Really made Murray Hallam look foolish. Perhaps that was your purpose Adrian?
I suspect now the image will change and change to confuse your 5 readers.
I have been reading this “thing” for a little while now and the premise the site appears to be based on is to debunk myths generated in aquaponics, however I have not read one debunk yet, just a bunch of 5 cent yobbos trying to get little thrills out of bagging people.
Oh well, I agree with you Adrian, it is a waste of time if you can not come up with something substantial. Are you capable Wayne Kerr?
Bane
February 18, 2011 at 1:32 pm